Northern Song Dynasty Justice

Chapter 351

Chapter 351

"How about it?"

Zhang Fei, who had just slipped out of the classroom, was stopped by Xu Zhiqian before she could leave the gate. She looked at Zhang Fei with a pair of clear eyes full of worry.

It must be a bad thing to see Zhang Fei coming out alone just after class.

"How about it?"

Zhang Fei was taken aback, and asked, "Didn't you listen to it just now?"

Xu Zhiqian shook her head lightly.

Zhang Fei asked: "Why? Didn't you say you want to see it?"

Xu Zhiqian said depressedly: "I wanted to go, but you didn't even look at it. How can I occupy a seat outside the classroom, and there are many respected scholar-bureaucrats, how dare I go."

She is not afraid of Sima Guang, Wang Anshi, or even Zhao Xu, but she is very afraid of old masters like Yan Fu.

If they saw a woman leaning forward, they would scold Xu Zhiqian bloody, and even implicate Xu Zun.

God!I was so handsome just now, but you didn't see it.Zhang Fei's interest suddenly faded, "It's not bad."

"not bad?"

Xu Zhiqian asked in surprise and joy: "Did they not make things difficult for you?"

Zhang Fei shook his head and said, "No."

Xu Zhiqian frowned slightly, "It's unlikely, they satirized you a lot in the past two days."

The reason why Zhang Fei targeted those students so much is because they have been ridiculed by them these days, and the outside world is full of sarcasm and abuse against him, so he has to take revenge and spray when he gets the chance, who hasn't opened his mouth yet.

Zhang Fei said: "I randomly picked a topic that they didn't understand, and they couldn't get in."

Xu Zhiqian asked curiously, "What topic?"

Zhang Fei said: "Which came first, the egg or the chicken."

".Which came first, the egg, or the chicken?"

"what?"

Zhang Fei left for a while, and Zhao Xu and the others also left, but none of the fifty students in the classroom left.

They slowly crawled to the board, their eyes glazed over, as if they were asking what happened just now.

They were really confused, and after an argument they didn't even quite know what they were arguing about.

It was precisely because of this that they were so embarrassed just now, and they couldn't even talk about it.

"The law of Legalism, the law of Confucianism, and the law of the legal system."

Ye Zu was just reciting the Three Laws, his eyes were a little confused, and he felt that this idea just couldn't get into his mind.

At this time, Cai Jing suddenly said: "The reason why we are confused is because he divided Legalism into two parts, one part of the decrees is classified as government decrees, and the other part is classified as the law of the legal system, but in our understanding, the law of the legal system It also belongs to the law of the Legalists, which caused us to feel very contradictory when arguing with it."

As soon as these words came out, everyone woke up like a dream.

Ye Zuqia slapped his thigh, "That's right, that's the reason. I was trapped here at the time. In fact, the two are the same thing. Think about it, if no one obeys the laws of Legalism, who will obey them?" The law of the law."

"wrong!"

Cai Bian shook his head and said, "It's not about this issue, but about whether the legalist law comes first or the legal system first. For example, if someone is arrested for stealing, this is a violation of the legal system, but if the government wants to pardon This person, this is the law of the Legalists, so who is the first?"

"If the government personally orders a pardon, it is estimated that it will still be pardoned."

"That is the legalist law first."

"But it seems wrong to do so. It should be the rule of law that comes first."

"If the government pardons the thief without a proper reason, the ministers will not agree."

"But if the officials insist on amnesty, it's useless for the ministers to object."

"Huh? Isn't this the Confucian method he just said?"

"Wait, I seem to have figured it out. As far as this example is concerned, if it is the law of the Legalists, if the officials want to pardon it, they must pardon it. No one dares to object.

If it is the Confucian law, the officials want to pardon, and the ministers can dissuade them, but they may not be able to persuade them, not to mention those stupid emperors, even the wise emperors have done this kind of thing, such as Emperor Wen of Sui Dynasty and Emperor Taizong of Tang Dynasty, they would not listen to persuasion when.

But if it is the law of the rule of law, it must not be pardoned.This is the difference between the three. "

"In this case, it seems that the legal system is better."

"Doesn't that mean that this law is bigger than the government?"

"You can't say that nonsense."

"What are you afraid of? Didn't you just talk about this issue? The law of the rule of law is not yet possible, because the law is not perfect."

"Since the rule of law is the consensus of everyone, there is nothing that can't be done. Isn't this a contradiction?"

"You didn't listen carefully. It's not that you can't do it, but you can't do it with the rule of law first. The law of the rule of law is dead, and you can't give in to the law of Legalism."

"Why give in?"

"rights and interests?"

There was an intense discussion in this classroom, and in the palace next to the Imperial College, Zhao Xu, Wang Anshi, Sima Guang, Fu Bi, Wen Yanbo and other prime ministers were also discussing this issue.

In fact, everyone still has something to say, and at present, the Song Dynasty is facing internal and external troubles, and everyone is looking for other ways, but unfortunately Zhang Fei defends the right to get off work, so they can only chat among themselves.

"Actually, what that kid said is very simple, not complicated."

Wang Anshi said casually.

"is it?"

Sima Guang felt annoyed when he saw him twittering, and said, "Then you should talk about it."

Wang Anshi asked with a smile: "Jun Shi also has doubts in his heart?"

Sima Guang nodded, and said truthfully, "There are indeed some things I didn't understand."

Zhao Xu also looked at Wang Anshi expectantly, and asked, "Sir, tell me quickly."

Monarchs and ministers discuss knowledge in private, and the address is relatively very casual.

Wang Anshi said: "The law of the Legalists is to put the emperor's order first; while the law of the Confucianism is that the sages decide the etiquette and the law, and the order is followed by the body, which is the rule of virtue. Self-interest first. It’s as simple as that.”

Zhao Xu nodded slightly: "It sounds very simple, but why so many people didn't understand it just now."

Wang Anshi wondered: "I don't know why they can't figure it out."

"It's not that simple."

Fu Bi shook his head and said, "Actually, among all the scholars, there is only one knowledge that puts personal interests first, and it has been lost for thousands of years, so many people are trapped in it and cannot understand it."

Sima Guang said: "What Fu Gong said is that Yang Zhu's study benefits the world without pulling out a hair."

"Exactly."

Fu Bi nodded, "Among a hundred schools of thought, only Yang Zhu's study emphasizes personal interests. It's a pity that Yang Zhu's study has not been handed down to the world, only a few words, and future generations have not been able to find out."

At this point, he changed the subject, "However, what Zhang Sanzhi said may allow us to understand Yang Zhu's studies."

Zhao Xu was surprised and said, "Mr. Fu compared Zhang San with Yang Zhu?"

Fu Bi said: "In my opinion, this legal system alone is enough to make Zhang San among the hundred schools of thought."

Wang Anshi was surprised and said: "The rich man is flattering that kid too much."

"It's not me who lifts him up."

Fu Bi shook his head and said: "In class, he used the legal system as a standard, but in fact this is an idea, the reason is that he can explain the legalist law and the Confucian law with the legal system, It is not an exaggeration to say that a sect is established, if you think about it according to the law, many things will change."

Zhao Xu asked, "For example?"

Fu Bi said: "Like Confucian monarchs and ministers, father and son may become fragmented."

Zhao Xu looked shocked, "How do you say that?"

Fu Bi replied: "As Zhang San said, the law of the rule of law is to safeguard the legitimate rights and interests of individuals, however, there may also be conflicts of interest between father and son.

So according to the Confucian etiquette, the father should still be the main one. Even if the trouble goes to the government, unless it involves a big treason, otherwise, the government will judge the father to win in all likelihood.

However, according to the law of the rule of law, the son is qualified to defend his legitimate rights and interests, and the relationship between the two tends to be more equal. "

Sima Guang said: "But Zhang Fei also made it clear that the rule of law is a consensus, not an individual's idea. The relationship between father and son is human nature, and it is also a consensus, so we must abide by the orders of our parents."

Wang Anshi immediately said: "Etiquette is a rule formulated according to family affection. Family affection is a kind of consensus, but the order of parents may not necessarily be a consensus. This is enlightenment. But remember that Ayun in Dengzhou was forced to give Wei Ada. As far as Zhang San's legal system is concerned, Ayun at least has the right to refuse."

"It's really scary."

Wen Yanbo couldn't help but exclaimed, he also reacted, and hurriedly said: "Officials, this method is absolutely impossible, it will subvert all family ethics."

In the classroom, Zhang Fei established the legal system as a standard, and the standard must be dead, that is, it is harmless.

But after Fu Bi said this, the problem became bigger.

If we follow the law of the rule of law to infer, we can quickly draw a conclusion that the relationship between people will tend to be equal, and personal freedom will be enlarged.

Then the whole set of Confucian class values ​​will be fragmented.

Of course, it is not subversive.

Because morality and law still have a lot in common, Zhang Fei said that the Confucian law is closer to the law of the legal system, which is actually true.

But in essence, there is a sharp contradiction between the two, but if it is a standard, there will be no contradiction.

Although Zhang Fei said it very cryptically, there are few pedantic people in this golden generation, especially Wang Anshi and Fu Bi. The power of things is also very fast.

Sima Guang and Wen Yanbo are inferior to them in this aspect.

Wang Anshi said: "I also think this method is not feasible."

Wang Anshi and Wen Yanbo were unified in their views for the first time.

The reason turned out to be because of Zhang Fei.

This..

Zhao Xu asked, "How do you say that, sir?"

Wang Anshi said: "If everyone emphasizes individual rights and interests, even if it is justified, it will make the country a mess. From the words of Legalism, it means disregarding the interests of the country." It will make the country fall apart, in fact, I just wanted to argue with him, but unfortunately that kid ran away."

Sima Guang said awkwardly: "Could this be just what we think? Maybe Zhang San just wants to express the principles of the law. If his law of the rule of law is only used in the judiciary, it is indeed correct."

Zhao Xu nodded slightly, looked at Fu Bi again, and asked, "What's Fu Gong's opinion?"

Fu Bi said: "At present, I also agree with what Jiefu and the others said. If we follow the legal system, many problems cannot be solved. In fact, Zhang San himself said in class that the current Confucian law is still the best solution. However, he I haven’t finished speaking, and I dare not make a rash decision.”

Wen Yanbo said: "Officials, this class cannot continue."

Wang Anshi immediately said: "This is absolutely impossible. He gave this class right under our noses, and he still has the upper hand in the scene. If we don't let him continue, it will only make us feel guilty, which will make people even more delusional. .”

His self-confidence is unparalleled, he thinks he is right, he is not guilty at all, he is not afraid of any legal system at all.

Zhao Xu nodded: "That's true, then let him continue."

(End of this chapter)